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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:00 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
my only question is if these musicians are so revered and respected, how can the guy who is running the storage facility not carry enough insurance to make a difference?
have a '59 goldtop work $100k? you'll be paying extra to up the coverage for my insurance in case my whole place floods out in a freak natural disaster, to cover your retardedly expensive/rare stuff.
sorry, but this excuse wouldn't fly if it were my shit that got ruined:
Jumper wrote:We have insurance, but nowhere near to cover this. It's only going to cover a small amount. A lot of this stuff is irreplaceable.
Re: Hi Will
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:51 pm
by jcyphe
PuppyTN wrote: thought I could shed some light on the subject.
Thanks for this post, it pretty much confirms what I already thought.
It's too bad the audience is being judgmental and not putting themselves in the shoes of another person.
The idea that a pro musician just doesn't care about their stuff and that's why they put it in "storage" is ludicrous. Your post confirms the exact opposite that this was the best home for their instruments and the flood damage was an unexpected and tragedy.
I apologize for some of the stupid opinions in this thread.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:17 am
by PuppyTN
Will wrote:Why does it take so much gear to tour, though? Plus PAs, road amps, etc are by no means irreplaceable. That will almost certainly be covered by the facilities' insurance. I'm thinking more about the vintage, arguably irreplaceable stuff. Why the hell would people who care about it leave it anywhere? That's just silly.
Imma buy an amazing, irreplaceable vintage guitar and just LOCK IT UP IN A STORAGE FACILITY. What's the point if you aren't playing it every day? Why not just rent what you want when you need it?
Another reason studio guys have so much gear is that they are sometimes playing sessions from 9-12 at one studio, 2-5 at another studio and 6-9 at a third different studio. It is easier for them to have two sets of gear so in the 1-2pm hour, one cartage group is tearing down his first setup at studio 1 and another cartage group is setting up his second setup at studio 2. Many times there will be redundancy in both of the rigs, as every guitar player has his favorite go to tones or amps or guitars. The studio guys use those guitars every day. They just store them at night or over the weekends. I am almost positive they play more than most people on this forum, because most of them play at least 9 hours a day, 5 days a week.
As far as the touring guys go, the tour season was about to start, and many of them had their gear in there ready to go out on dates. And I'm pretty sure none of them would want anyone renting their instruments, either. They paid a lot of money for them them, they use them to make their living. Why rent them out? That doesn't make sense to me. It would be like if you were a racecar team owner and during the week, you rented your stock car out when you weren't racing on Saturdays.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:26 am
by PuppyTN
jcyphe, you're welcome. I think it might be hard to understand why all the stuff was in one place if you didn't know how the system worked in town. You pretty much got it right with your previous posts, I was just adding some more detail.
There are numerous places in town like Soundcheck... Gear For Days, Drum Paradise, Blackbird, Session Services, Underground, and many smaller mom and pop operations have the same setup as Soundcheck on a slightly smaller scale. It's not an uncommon business here in town. And it's profitable too. If you are setting up three musicians for three sessions a day, each cartage bill being $100-150, you can make between $900-$1350 a day. After paying gas, labor and storage space, that's still a pretty good profit.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:28 am
by Will
The whole Nashville music mechanism just seems so foreign to me. I think because it's more or less run like a machine or business, which is not at all what I associate with musical art.
There's something very inhuman feeling about it.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:53 am
by PuppyTN
Will wrote:The whole Nashville music mechanism just seems so foreign to me. I think because it's more or less run like a machine or business, which is not at all what I associate with musical art.
There's something very inhuman feeling about it.
Well I can understand that. It is a business, after all, and a lot of it is churned out. And it's done like this in New York or LA or London too. Remember that most recorded music is made for a lot of different things. These guys are recording television bed music, or movie cues, or video game soundtracks or commercials, or demo recordings most of the time. You're not trying to make musical art when you are playing a Viagra commercial. You are making a stock blues song, that will be played impeccably, that will pay you every time it runs on television for a 13 week cycle. It's work, but it pays well and it's fun to see your buddies in the studio every day.
Most of the music made in Nashville is like this... it's business oriented. But if an artist/label/producer sets out to make a piece of art, that's an entirely different session. It's a lockout in the studio for days or weeks at a time, where everyone is just allowed to flow and come up with their own ideas, and then everyone gets together to see how it fits. When you get these amazing musicians together doing that, then that's art. But 80% of the business is paying bills. It's work. It's a business. You do that 80% of commercial music so you can spend 20% of your career making great art.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:59 am
by Grant
What's happening to the wrecked instruments? Would a musician choose to keep a ruined instrument for sentimental purposes even though it's mangled? Are the emotionally-unattached guitars getting dumpstered?
I'm oddly fixated. I apologize if I'm being insensitive.