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Decided you needed a bigger tuner pedal, eh?

How useful is the Ricochet? I've only just now read about what it does. That sounds great, but it sounds like it would be a bit limited by not having tap tempo. Better still, an expression pedal to control the rate of modulation... hmmm...

I'm about to start a new project possibly with a mate, and thinking about rejigging the pedalboard is giving me anxiety.

My mate's a eurorack guy. Probably I'll be going straight into a little 8 channel mixer he runs through, then straight out to whatever PA is available.

I think I'll need ready access to the MIDI ports on my M13 so we can sync tempi on delays etc.

More pressingly, I also think I need some cheap and easy way to simulate amps in stereo. Thinking I might pick up two of the Joyo/Harley Benton British Sound (or maybe a mix: one British one American to sort of replicate my actual set up of the Matamp on one side and Jet City on the other).

The other option is to run Amplitube in Ableton on a laptop and run everything through an interface. But that sort of opens up far more options and I think will be less cool. There's something about the clunkiness of cables and somewhat hacked solutions that can force musical decisions. If I'm running Ableton and a laptop, then I'm probably going to involve a keyboard and a Launchpad etc too, and we're in a completely different project.

The tuner is being used as a kill switch/silencer and the korg has a cracking buffer. I just use the tuner on the hx XL but it's not instant unfortunately.

Are you confusing the ricochet with the new Digitechm hammer on pedal ?

The ricochet is just a whammy but you press a foot switch instead of an expression pedal. You set the ramp on the pedal. It's basically there for Lazer pistol sounds haha

Yeah, but if you could sync the speed of those laser sounds/ramps/oscillations that would be useful. If you could then dick around with speeding/slowing those, that would be, well probably not useful, but fun.

EDIT: Ah wait, yeah I just watched a video of the ricochet. That's not at all what I thought it would do.

Remember when you used to have to work this stuff out from magazines? Just reading what a pedal does? How did we manage?

The Hammer On looks like a near miss. A more fully featured sequencer is what I'd want, with tap tempo and the ability to change the speed of the transition from one step to the next so that it's can either glide/portamento or jump abruptly for rhythmic fun.

What I want is some sort of Whammy deluxe, where you'd have all the Hammer On, Ricochet and Drop stuff included, as well as a proper sequencer.

I spend a fair amount of time "playing" like in this video, where I set up a drone then use the knob on the Whammy to create tunes/chords,bits. Being able to write sequences and sync their tempo would be extremely useful for this. Usually, I have to then record something like this in a looper then get to work with other sounds whilst hoping that things don't go out of sync as a result of my cack handed timing.

Excuse the blurriness, my phone camera isn't as clever as it used to be and struggles to auto focus in good light, never mind whatever this is.

I don't have anything to suggest although you could possibly get somewhere with a boss slicer or h90 with one of it's arp algorithms.


However that's a really nice sound!

The hammer on definitely misses the mark not being midi

Edit. Maybe one of the various boss Synth pedals could do it. But expensive.

As I went to bed I remembered this, which is probably exactly what you want!

Riff-Step™ | DigiTech Whammy Enhancer | StepAudio.net | Patented Pedals. http://stepaudio.net/products/riff_ste ... o_net.html

That is pretty much perfect.

I've just spotted this:



Hmmm. HHMMMM. This seems very doable.

Looks cracking but having to use a computer and Daw would be a pain in the arse.

Unless you also built a small arduino based midi sequencer. Such a thing must exist, surely.

No real idea of what that is but I am sure you are correct.

Also this

Step Sequencers | Delicious Audio http://share.google/ojr2XLHmxPHJGZDPi

Also an idea just popped into my head. How about using a synth with built in sequencer to control the whammy through midi?

That would work. I do have some spare MIDI controllers lying around. I might have a play.

Veering well off my usual intention of making synthey/computer style noises but without using a synth/computer. But sure look, it's something to do, isn't it?

Maded a video about a pickup but included some sequencing with the H90 for you Paul

Thanks for that. I've only just seen the price of the H90, haha, holy fuck. I think I'm drawn to doing things on the cheap, then either being pleased that I'm clever enough to work out how to do it cheaply, or at least pretend that that's the sound I wanted all along.

That pickup sounds great. I enjoyed the metaltonez a lot.

Yeah the price is obscene! I did buy mine second hand for decent savings though. I also bought it just before I got kicked out of FT for use in FT which made it sting a little more! Haha

Paul: ages ago, I had success using a EHX 8-Step Programme as a sequencer with my M9:
Since it works via resistance like an expression pedal (rather than exact MIDI values), it was a little fiddly to dial in and sometimes wouldn't hit the notes 100% of the time, but that could've equally been the M9 and/or choice of patch I was controlling. Thinking about it, with non-decimal parameters would be the way forward, namely using the Harmonist to determine the (smart!) intervals, which could be very, very neat.

They're not mad pricy, plus could probably find a bargain on a used one, but admittedly, it's not dirt cheap.

I finally got a Bananana Effects Tararira recently after wanting one for YEARS, and it's pretty much perfect apart from that cheap 'wobbly' pitchshifting - that's what sets stuff like Eventide apart from these unit, and makes them cost The Big Bucks.

Just remembered that the EHX Mod-9 also does arpeggiating stuff and you can pick them up for mad cheap. You can't define the steps, but it uses modes/scales so you can at least work within the ballpark. I used it on this song, panned right, about 3:20:



I don't know why people to rave about them all day long, they do SO much, and are just let down by the tiny form factor, requiring alt knobs and all that shit. It doesn't even have the shitty wobbly pitchshifting since it's not using whatever that old chipset the others do, Spin FV-1 I'd guess.

The Meris Enzo is an annoying bastard of a pedal, but the arpeggiator mode is fun. It’ll pick out the notes of a chord you play and repeat them.

Put it in trails mode, turn it off and then you can play over it.

It has quite a few flaws, but that does mean you can score them quite cheaply.

dub wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:43 am The Meris Enzo is an annoying bastard of a pedal

Can 100% back this statement; I loved some of the sounds but the UX is a nightmare

8-Step Programme appeals to me because of the bluntness of it. Whammy pedal doesn't have an expression pedal input (because why would it?) but the M13 does. It has 2. But I have expression pedals in each of them.

Hmmm.

I think I've become fixated on this because it's something that Digitech should already have done.