N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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The "O" for "old", and not just because it's old. I'm getting my old guitar. Story time.

As a kid just getting into working on guitars, a mentor had a high end Ibanez Roadstar II. I loved it. My parents knew that, and I got one as a surprise Christmas gift.

It is---or at least was---an RS110 model. Almost as basic as it gets. Single bridge humbucker. No switches, just a push/push coil split on the volume pot. Not worth much even today, but actually quite rare, only made in 1985, according to the serial number. I honestly don't know, because they're not in any of the catalogs I've found.

Adult me says, that's awesome, rock it. Kid me was like yeahhh, I wouldn't have gone for that and I'm gonna change it. It became a learning platform. I borrowed a router, gave the body the swimming pool treatment, hacked up the original pickguard for a neck humbucker, and so it went. It had many, many phases. (I'm looking for pictures of all of them just for fun.)

Roughly a decade later, I sold it when I had a lot of debt and desperately needed help paying bills. Wasn't long before I regretted that, even though I didn't play it much anymore.

Fast forward to last week. That mentor, who I haven't talked to in years, reached out to me, wondering if I still had it. I started to say no, and explain why, but that I do keep an eye out for Roadstars now and then.

So I went to Reverb just out of curiosity. Nothing worth my money...except then WAIT WHAT there's my old guitar! Instantly recognizable because of the last mod I did to it. Shock.

I had wanted to do something different and bought a loaded pickguard assembly from an RS135, which was a short-lived Strat competitor. The pickups were red, so I tried spraying them black to match the body. Masking tape fell over onto the tops, and when I peeled it off, there you have it.

At the time I felt like, that's an appropriately 80s look, so I left it. Apparently everyone who's owned it since then did, too. Haven't decided what I'll do now. One thing is for sure, older me is not a fan of white/black/white 3-ply so I'll probably either make or buy a different pickguard. Or maybe try to get the original looking decent and go back to humbuckers. (I kept it, about to go look for it.)

Regardless, having it in my hands again is surreal. Sometimes things from your past find their way back to you and it's good. It'll never be worth much to anyone but me, but that makes it all the more valuable in a different way.

Best picture I could find of how it would've been originally (no pictures of my own from back then), compared to how it is now.

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Re: N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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That is awesome, what are the odds?!?
I love the Blazer necks and the body shapes, a really stylish update on the classics. I have an RB630 bass to restore from the same year, wonderful to play.
What kinda bucker would you give it, if you find the guard? I’d be tempted to do one of those P90 style or a Surf 90 / Dream 90 maybe.
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Love it.
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Bacchus wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:17 pmLove it.
Indeed. Brilliant that it found its way back to you.
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MattK wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:36 pm What kinda bucker would you give it, if you find the guard? I’d be tempted to do one of those P90 style or a Surf 90 / Dream 90 maybe.
I was thinking something with a split pole WRHB look. And I found the original pickguard. But...

I took this one off and remembered, oh hell, to make that fit, young me had to route it even further than kid me did. The original pickguard will never fit again. Looking at the comparison pictures in the first post you can see the RS135 pickguard extends a lot further. Stupid young me.

In this first picture you can also see silver Sharpie where the route was planned to be, before realizing, wait, that's too far. Messy.

Seems that one of the screw holes was destroyed in that process, so I glued a dowel rod in to hopefully fix that.
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Other things are coming back to me...when I got this pickguard assembly it wasn't complete. Both the 5-way switch and the phase switch were missing. Those came from my parts bin and the phase switch is an on/off/on which I never got working right. It should be on/on; phase reversed or not. I'll fix that later.

Also, I wrote that "N" on the neck pickup, since they were completely removed for painting.

These pickups are interesting. They look like ones I've seen on cheap Strat copies, but they're injection molded into the cover. The 1985 Ibanez USA catalog says it's a Super 5. "The Super 5, a traditional molded pickup with six exposed pole pieces is cast inside to create a smooth, sharp tone". That's...confusing? They were only made for '84 and '85 and there's not a whole lot of info out there.

But they are single coils, and they are a bit noisy. Looks like I started working on fixing that by giving the pickguard the poor man's shielding. With that hole in the cavity exposing the claw/springs---which I don't think I made---I suppose it'll need some copper shielding tape or something else heavy duty.

But first I'm working on fixing some nasty damage on the butt. I remember a paint chip where the strap button goes. But it wasn't awful and clearly has been dropped at least once since I last saw it. That strap button was basically useless. I have some experience with finish repair, but nothing this big so we'll see how it goes.
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If you’re repairing a big finish hole at the tail, you may as well plug the extra routing and repair that too …
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Haha, I don't think I was anticipating the swimming pool route to be quite so swimming pooley.
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I remember you having this, I think at the same time I had my Blazer, congrats on finding it again!
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Reminds me that I found our old Volvo 240 on Facebook marketplace the other day.
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Bacchus wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:06 pm Haha, I don't think I was anticipating the swimming pool route to be quite so swimming pooley.
:lol: As I recall, from the factory it was routed only for the bridge pickup. I had no templates or anything else to do a proper route for a middle or neck pickup. I'm convinced the hole exposing the claw / springs wasn't my doing, but I can't find pictures to prove it.

I did find a handful of pictures of its various phases, though. Most from a time when 800x600 would've looked huge on the web.

This was my first attempt at making a pickguard. Still have it, as well as the EMGs that are in it. Looks a lot better in this picture than it does in person.

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I got tired of the EMGs and went back to the original pickguard. My favorite look, now.

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But at some point it wasn't, so I spray painted it. And put a Carvin neck on. Look at that mess, good god what is wrong with you boy! I think I was 22 at the time.

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It stayed like that until I decided to put the Carvin neck on another project and bought the pickguard it has now.

Speaking of...I couldn't find anywhere I'd trust to do a good job of making a replica. But coincidentally, guess what popped up for sale while searching? Should be here in a few days. I think it's gonna go perfectly with those pickups.

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And! While researching, I found that a couple (previously unknown) knobs I got long ago actually belong on a Roadstar. It's all coming together. Except for the rest of the guitar at the moment :)

This first picture is from a Reverb listing, but you can see it in the 1984 USA catalog too.

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Been a while...life has been kinda strange, and in a way that includes this thing's story.

Not long after my last post, I learned that the former mentor I mentioned had passed away unexpectedly. I'm not in touch with any of his family, so I don't even know what happened. It's bizarre to think that if he hadn't randomly chosen that moment to reach back out to me, this guitar would still be just a memory. Motivation to keep working on it.

I tried many times to repair the damage where the strap button mounts (with a goal of it being unnoticeable) and eventually decided either I'm not using the right filling material, or it's just beyond my expertise. The perfectionist in me isn't quite happy, but you know what, it's not a perfect guitar. It's only noticeable close up and in the right light anyway.

The strap buttons on it weren't original, and I couldn't get the rust off those, so I put these on instead. I think they're off a different Ibanez of around the same vintage. They look the part anyway.
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That black pickguard I last posted about didn't work. Although it looks similar, all the holes were in the wrong place, and the lower part extends even further than my routing job from long ago. Plus, it was warped. After some research, I think it's from a 1983 RS100, one of the first Roadstar models, which had 21 frets (instead of 22 with a tongue), and a hardtail top loading bridge. Sorta reminds me of certain Burns models and I'd love to have one.
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I wanted to get it playing, so after cleaning the hardware---it came to me from Florida and looked like it had been regularly exposed to 80-100% humidity---I decided to put the white pickguard back on. But I'm saving those red/black pickups for when I get around to cutting a single ply black copy. Whenever I do that I'll also try repairing the cavity so it can be shielded.

I put in some old Strat pickups instead. Uncovered, as they didn't quite fit the mounting holes with the black robroe covers I wanted to use. I like the look, very 80s in a different way.
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But I don't think they'll stay, because 1) without shielding, the 60-cycle hum is strong, and 2) they're too Stratty for my taste. Think like...Steve Miller, David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler. Nothing wrong with that of course, I just don't use that kind of tone often.

I also (mostly) repaired some other paint damage. This, I think, was caused by the base of the router long ago. I don't recall it being this bad though. You guys probably know, but since this is a super thick urethane finish, it's like detailing a car. Stages of fine grit wet sanding + polishing compound + glaze.
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Adding to the story...I said before that these RS110s aren't worth much, being a very basic model, but that they are rare. In the 20 years since I got it originally, I've never seen another. So, I was amazed to see Facebook marketplace randomly recommend one for sale, 5 minutes from me.

I couldn't pass it up. The thing looks like it's hardly been touched. And the grain on the fretboard is wild for a budget model. So is seeing what my old one would've been like if, nearly 40 years ago, it were in a pawn shop or something. Barely any scratches on the pickguard even. According to the serial number, it was made a couple months after its sibling. Interesting how the logo is more gold and the neck is lighter tinted. So, here we are.

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Side note, I haven't watched Back to the Future in forever and didn't remember that Marty plays a Roadstar in the audition scene. Also never knew the judge with the megaphone is actually Huey Lewis. Also also, that Gibson Victory bass ought to be reissued.

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That is a handsome pair! Glad things are gradually working out. The right pickups will come along in time.
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That fretboard on the new one is insane - great score!